Interview with Charles B. Rosenberg
Charles (“Chip”) Rosenberg is a partner in the International Dispute Resolution Practice. He is a specialist in public international law and international arbitration, focusing on both investment treaty arbitration and international commercial arbitration. He has significant experience representing clients in ICSID, UNCITRAL, ICC, SCC, NAFTA and ECT arbitrations. Chip also specializes in US and international enforcement of court judgments and arbitral awards.
Charles (“Chip”) Rosenberg是國際爭議解決業務的合夥人，專長於國際公法與國際仲裁，尤其側重投資條約仲裁和國際商事仲裁。他在ICSID、UNCITRAL、ICC、SCC、NAFTA及ECT等仲裁程式中擁有豐富的代理經驗，並同時專門從事美國及國際法院判決和仲裁裁決的執行工作。
A. Career Development
職業發展
Mr. Rosenberg, your own path has been notably diverse, from working as an associate in the area of international trade litigation to gaining experience of international arbitration as a clerk to the Hon. Charles N. Bower, from serving as a trusted adviser to taking on professorship, and, ultimately, joining the partnership at Squire Patton Boggs.
Rosenberg先生，您的職業生涯顯得尤為多樣化：從在國際貿易訴訟領域擔任律師，到作為Charles N. Brower法官的書記員積累國際仲裁經驗，再到作為值得信賴的顧問以及在學術領域任教，最終成為Squire Patton Boggs的合夥人。
1. When and how did you discover your passion for international arbitration?
1. 您是在何時以及透過何種方式發現自己對國際仲裁的熱情？
2. Considering your transition from international trade litigation to international arbitration, what inspired you to move from the United States to the United Kingdom to clerk for the Hon. Charles N. Brower?
2. 鑑於您從國際貿易訴訟轉向國際仲裁的職業轉型，是什麼啟發您從美國前往英國為Charles N. Brower法官擔任書記員？
I started my career as a junior associate practicing international trade litigation at Hogan Lovells in Washington, DC. But I wanted to practice international arbitration. I had discovered international arbitration somewhat late in law school, and I was attracted to it because it seemed to be more “international” than international trade law. For example, as a U.S. lawyer I could represent a Chinese company in an arbitration against a Turkish company which is seated in Geneva and governed by Swiss law!
我職業生涯的起點是在霍金路偉律師事務所的華盛頓特區辦公室擔任一名從事國際貿易訴訟的初級律師。然而，我的職業目標是從事國際仲裁。我是在法學院的後期階段才接觸到國際仲裁，但它吸引我的地方在於其更加“國際化”的性質，這比國際貿易法更令我著迷。比如，作為一名美國律師，我可以在日內瓦進行一場仲裁，代表一家中國公司對抗一家土耳其公司，而這場仲裁適用的是瑞士法律。
I therefore made the decision to build up my international arbitration credentials while refining my written and oral advocacy skills at the law firm. I did this by co-authoring articles, attending panel discussions, and enrolling in the American University’s arbitration summer program. This enabled me to demonstrate to Judge Brower that I had both the interest in and knowledge of international arbitration, despite the fact that my day job was practicing international trade litigation.
因此，我決定在律所工作期間，透過提升書面和口頭辯論技巧，同時建立國際仲裁方面的資歷。我透過與人合著文章、參加專家小組討論，以及參加美國大學的仲裁暑期課程來實現這一目標。這些努力讓我能夠向Brower法官展示，我不僅對國際仲裁抱有興趣，同時也具備相關的知識，儘管我的日常工作仍然是處理國際貿易訴訟。
Judge Brower took a chance on me and invited me to join him in The Hague to serve as his international arbitration law clerk, a position which enabled me to later transition into an international arbitration practice at a law firm.
Brower法官給了我機會，邀請我前往海牙擔任他的國際仲裁書記員。這一職位成為了我的職業轉折點，使我得以後來順利轉型，在律師事務所從事國際仲裁業務。
B. Advice for Aspiring Arbitration Practitioners
對有志於從事國際仲裁領域的律師的建議
You currently represent individuals, corporations, and sovereign governments in complex investment treaty and international commercial arbitrations.
您目前在複雜的投資條約仲裁和國際商事仲裁中代表個人、企業和主權政府。
1. For young legal professionals aspiring to build a career in the field of international arbitration, what steps would you recommend them to take in order to maximize their chances of breaking into the field?
1. 對於希望在國際仲裁領域建立職業生涯的年輕法律從業者，您會建議他們採取哪些步驟，以最大化進入該領域的機會？
2. What can individuals who are interested in arbitration but have no opportunity to practice, such as students or lawyers who are part of other practice groups, do to learn more about arbitration or cultivate an expertise or “feeling” for arbitration?
2. 對於那些對仲裁感興趣但沒有實踐機會的個人，例如學生或在其他實踐領域工作的律師，他們可以透過哪些方式更多地瞭解仲裁，或培養對仲裁的專業知識或“感覺”？
Law students and lawyers can do a variety of things to learn more about international arbitration. Law students can enroll in an international arbitration course and participate in a moot court competition, such as Jessup or Vis.
法學院學生和律師可以採取多種方式來深入瞭解國際仲裁。對於法學院學生，他們可以選修國際仲裁課程，並參加模擬法庭比賽，例如Jessup或Vis。
I also recommend that law students and lawyers attend panel discussions and conferences which are regularly held in major cities. These events are usually free and a good opportunity to learn about arbitration and meet members of the international arbitration community. In my experience, it also is common for students and lawyers to reach out to international arbitration practitioners for informational interviews to learn more about their practice.
我還建議法學院學生和律師參加定期在大城市舉辦的小組討論和會議。這些活動通常是免費的，不僅是瞭解仲裁的好機會，也是與國際仲裁界成員建立聯絡的良機。在我的經驗中，學生和律師通常會主動聯絡國際仲裁從業者，進行資訊性訪談，以更深入地瞭解其工作實踐。
Finally, to start obtaining international arbitration credentials and demonstrate to the community that you have the knowledge of and interest in international arbitration, I recommend publishing an article – which is often easier if you co-author it. For this purpose, a short 2-3 page article published in Kluwer Arbitration Blog or ITA in Review can be just as useful as a longer article published in a U.S. law review!
此外，為了開始積累國際仲裁領域的資歷，並向仲裁界展示您對國際仲裁的知識和興趣，我建議發表文章。與他人合作撰寫文章通常更容易一些。例如，一篇發表在Kluwer Arbitration Blog或ITA in Review上的短文（2-3頁），可以和一篇發表在美國法學評論中的長文一樣有用。
If there are any discrepancies between the Chinese and English versions, the English version shall prevail.
如中英文內容有出入，請以英文版本為準。
Lyanna JIN
Associate, top-tier Chinese law firm.
Cornell LL.M., Tongji LL.B., LL.M.
Founder of 例文 LyaWeekly